A One-of-a-Kind Saab No-Start - Transmission Digest

A One-of-a-Kind Saab No-Start

How often do you get to say this as a technician: “I have never seen this before”? Such a day occurred for me recently when my customer had his 1991 Saab 9000 towed to our shop with a no-start complaint. Little did I know what I was in for! Spoiler alert: Do not look at the last two pictures yet; try to figure this one out first.

A One-of-a-Kind Saab No-Start

Tech to Tech

Subject: No-start condition
Vehicle Application: 1991 Saab 9000
Essential Reading: Diagnostician
Author: Brian Manley

Diagnosis got kind of ‘hairy’

Tech to Tech

  • Subject: No-start condition
  • Vehicle Application: 1991 Saab 9000
  • Essential Reading: Diagnostician
  • Author: Brian Manley

Diagnosis got kind of ‘hairy’

How often do you get to say this as a technician: “I have never seen this before”?

Such a day occurred for me recently when my customer had his 1991 Saab 9000 towed to our shop with a no-start complaint. Little did I know what I was in for! Spoiler alert: Do not look at the last two pictures yet; try to figure this one out first.

Chris told me his “friend” had tried to repair his vehicle, but it was still a stalled Saab. I asked what his friend had done while attempting the repair, and Chris told me he had “tried” a fuel filter, spark plugs, coil pack and a powertrain control module (PCM), which Saab still refers to as an electronic control unit (ECU). I felt uneasy as I peered into the back seat and saw what appeared to be used parts with salvage-yard markings on them (Figure 1). My uneasy feeling was possibly due to: 1) The parts in the back seat are “good” and I have two good ECUs and two good coil packs; 2) One of the parts in the back seat is “bad” or 3) Both of the parts in the back seat are bad.

“I have been in this situation before,” I thought to myself, “and it always turns out to be more of an adventure than I had bargained for.” Just as those words left my brain, I accepted the challenge.

As odd as I find these Swedish, turbocharged 2.3-liter, five-door lift-backs, I also admire how unique they are, and how challenging they can be to diagnose. I approached this analysis as though Chris’s friend had never dabbled in the diagnosis, so I ensured that the salvage parts were actually the ones in the back seat and the original ECU and coil pack were installed in the car.

To prove what Chris had told me, we confirmed that we had strong spark from the coil pack, and we tapped into the fuel system at the filter with a banjo fitting to confirm fuel pressure; both spark and fuel pressure were present. We continued our diagnosis with a visual inspection of all the basic plumbing for the turbocharger, as these just flat out will not run if there is a significant leak in the induction system, and ensured that the air filter and vane air-flow meter were visually clean and moving as intended. We followed this with a basic compression test, which revealed readings of 130-140 psi for all four cylinders. The spark plugs looked new, but a bit wet, so we cleaned them before reinstalling. Another attempt to start failed.

There was just over 100,000 miles on the odometer, and the engine sounded normal while cranking, but it just would not run.

At this point, I was wondering if there was a remote possibility that the timing chain could have jumped one tooth, but the compression readings did not bear that out. I have had engines that had “jumped,” but most would show low compression readings or start and run, albeit poorly. There was a technical service bulletin (TSB) for “Rattling Timing Chain,” but this was the only engine-related TSB, and I could not find any pertaining to this no-start situation.

I desperately wanted to observe data stream and check for codes, but I did not have an OBD I-compatible Saab scan tool. I felt a bit challenged at this point because I could not gather all the diagnostic data that I wanted to. What to do next?

Since this was a turbocharged engine, I was now wondering if a seized turbo could be causing a significant restriction in the intake to prevent startup. I removed the clamps and the pipe from the turbo, and I physically spun the impeller by hand; it was free.

At this point, I began thinking about odd reasons for an engine that would not start but had spark, fuel, compression and new tune-up parts. I began looking at this vehicle from underneath but still saw no issues. On a hunch, I dropped the header pipe from the exhaust manifold, climbed into the front seat, and the engine fired right up!

Now, you may have discovered this much more quickly than I did – and we were now faced with an exhaust restriction – but I did not yet know where it was. We cut the catalytic converter from its pipe, but when we shined a light through the substrate, we could see no restriction. After shining a light into every pipe, we noticed something funny a few inches into the rear tailpipe. We grabbed a pair of long needle-nose pliers and grabbed the foreign object and began pulling. To my amazement, this hairy substance just kept coming out and coming out (Figure 2). I didn’t know if some little critters had decided to make their winter home in a Swedish location, or if somehow the engine had sucked in a full Halloween wig!

We continued pulling until we had removed what appeared to be 20 or more feet of “hair,” and we surmised that the interior of the muffler had simply decayed and plugged up the exhaust system. Yup, I had never seen that one before.

Brian Manley is a vocational automotive instructor for the Cherry Creek school district in Aurora, Colo. He is an ASE master certified automobile technician and a former member of the National Automotive Technicians Education Foundation (NATEF) board of trustees. He can be reached at [email protected].

This copyrighted article is reprinted with the permission of AutoInc., the official publication of the Automotive Service Association (ASA). To learn more about ASA and its commitment to independent automotive-service and repair professionals, visit www.ASAshop.org or call 800-272-7467.

You May Also Like

Don’t fear customer complaints about CVTs

Continuously Variable Transmissions, or CVTs, are more common than you think. Audi, Subaru, Nissan, Ford, GM and many other automakers use CVT transmissions in cars and SUVs. There is no way to avoid them. Chances are there is one in your shop right now. What does CVT mean for technicians? On the maintenance side, a

CVT-Transmission-2

Continuously Variable Transmissions, or CVTs, are more common than you think. Audi, Subaru, Nissan, Ford, GM and many other automakers use CVT transmissions in cars and SUVs. There is no way to avoid them. Chances are there is one in your shop right now.

What does CVT mean for technicians? On the maintenance side, a CVT requires more or the same frequency of fluid and filter changes as a conventional automatic transmission, and many of the basic procedures are the same. On the diagnostic side, a CVT is less complicated internally than a six- or nine-speed transmission. Diagnostics with a scan tool are about the same. On the service side, while you may never pull a variator or belt out of a CVT, you can service components like sensors, pumps and valve bodies. The point here is not to fear a customer complaint about a CVT. 

Shift Pointers: A Chrysler 300 no-shift complaint

The case study has to do with a 2009 Chrysler 300 C 5.7L Nag1 RWD with 71,923 miles on it (see Figure 1, above). Related Articles – 2024 State of the Powertrain Industry – Powertrain industry directory and buyer’s guide 2024 – A guide to common GM, Ford and Nissan programming issues It is based

A guide to common GM, Ford and Nissan programming issues

One of the most common complaints I hear from shops when trying to install a new GM TCM is, “The module will not communicate.” While that might be partially true, by design they won’t communicate until they are programmed. If programming fails, there will be an “E” code set which will help you get to

Shift of the shaft: Diagnosing Chrysler 48RE manual shaft issues

The TorqueFlite transmission has been around since mid-to-late 1950s. There have been many changes surrounding the manual shaft and rooster comb through the years. This transmission shaft controls the position of the manual valve that directs oil for the gear ranges, but it also is used for a Reverse light control as well as Park/Neutral

Sometimes, a diagnostic code is all you need

With ATSG having the opportunity to help shops solve problems, sometimes we get faced with some real doozies. A shop will call and give us a laundry list of DTCs, leaving us to think someone must have a bulkhead connector unplugged. We then go through the arduous task of deciding which codes prompted other codes

Other Posts

Easy TH400, 4L80-E reverse servo setup: Craft your own tool

While not as sensitive as some shifting bands, the Reverse band adjustment on a TH400 or 4L80-E transmission is critical, and failure to get it right has tripped up even the best builders. There is nothing worse than getting the transmission installed, putting it in Reverse and then not going anywhere or having no engine

Spotting different 68RFE designs through the years to avoid issues

The Chrysler 68RFE has had several changes through the years. Its four-speed predecessor began with a noisy solenoid pack identified by a black colored pass-through case connector (seen in Figure 1).  Related Articles – Outgrowing the walls: The story of EVT Transmission Parts – Valve body and component suppliers: A comprehensive list – Shift Pointers:

Shift Pointers: Failures caused by incorrect tire sizes

For years ATSG has produced a wide range of issues related to improper tire sizes on vehicles. Even under-inflated tires have been known to cause issues. Problems such as premature failure with an active 4WD transfer case will occur with incorrect tire sizes. Related Articles – Understanding lube flow control valves in Toyota/Lexus UA/UB80 transmissions

Shift-Pointers-Jan-Figure-1-1400
Understanding lube flow control valves in Toyota/Lexus UA/UB80 transmissions

The Toyota/Lexus UA80 and UB80 transmissions first came out in 2017 in Highlanders and Siennas. The UA80 is used in V6 applications, and the UB80 is paired with four-cylinder versions. They have been called Toyota New Global Architecture type transmissions, and alternately referred to as the “Direct Shift 8AT” eight-speed automatic transmission. This transmission was

Tasc-Tip-December-Figure-1---LFC-Valve-OE-Partial-Circuit-Diagram-1400