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Water Contamination in Torque Converters

Opening up a torque converter and finding what looks like a strawberry milkshake inside is fairly common in the rebuilding industry. The strawberry-milkshake appearance is the result of ATF being contaminated by water. A small amount of water mixed with transmission fluid will change the appearance of the fluid dramatically. Since many shops have limited areas available for storing cores, some cores are open to the elements. Transporting cores in open vehicles also increases the opportunities for water contamination.

Water Contamination in Torque Converters

Torque Converter Tech Tips

Author: Ed Lee

Torque Converter Tech Tips

  • Author: Ed Lee

Opening up a torque converter and finding what looks like a strawberry milkshake inside is fairly common in the rebuilding industry. The strawberry-milkshake appearance is the result of ATF being contaminated by water. A small amount of water mixed with transmission fluid will change the appearance of the fluid dramatically. Since many shops have limited areas available for storing cores, some cores are open to the elements. Transporting cores in open vehicles also increases the opportunities for water contamination.

A small amount of water in a non-lockup converter is usually not a problem, provided it is removed in a reasonable amount of time. However, if the water remains in the converter long enough to show signs of rust on the ferrous metals or oxidation on the non-ferrous metals, you probably will have either bearing or stator clutch issues.

There are additional concerns with water contamination in a lockup torque converter. With the exception of high-carbon or woven-carbon friction materials, all lockup clutch linings are paper-based. When a paper-based TCC clutch is exposed to water, it’s only a matter of time before a failure occurs. The friction material either will delaminate or will separate from the piston at the bond line because of rust.

When you find more than the normal number of converters to be contaminated with water, there’s usually a common source that must be found. This was the case with the converters for the 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokees equipped with 3.7-liter engines. The fill-tube oil seal was allowing water to enter the transmission (see Figure 1). Most customers were unaware of the water in their transmissions. Some noticed only a TCC shudder or a slight buzzing noise.

DaimlerChrysler became aware of the problem and issued Service Bulletin (SB) #21-011-05 REV. A. In October 2005 this bulletin was canceled and Safety Recall E13 was issued. The Safety Recall was issued because if the water entering the transmission is left unchecked, it’s possible for the fluid to rise to a level to cause foaming by the moving parts, and the expanding foam could escape onto the exhaust.

Under recall E13, dealers will replace the fill-tube oil seal and add a water shield onto the fill tube above the seal (see Figure 2) on all affected vehicles at no charge to the customer. If the seal is found to be leaking, the transmission fluid is flushed and the torque converter is replaced – also at no cost to the customer. Although the seal and water shield seem to prevent water from entering the transmission, some shops have opted to take some extra measures for protection.

Because of the proximity of the air-conditioner evaporator drain, some shops have attached a 24-inch piece of 5/8-inch heater hose to the drain. The hose is routed along the firewall and exits near the passenger-side frame rail. Care must be taken not to use a piece of hose that is too long: If it is, the hose will either come into contact with the exhaust or extend into the air stream and create a noise.

Rebuilders need to communicate with the R&R people at transmission shops when they get a converter with water in it so the R&R people can look for potential problems such as water dripping from the evaporator drain onto an entry port on the transmission.

The fill-tube oil seal and water-shield package (including extra bolt wire-harness shield) are sold as part number CBLOE131 for slightly more than $5. If you have a similar vehicle that is not covered by the recall, you might want to consider this update.

Ed Lee is a Sonnax technical specialist who concentrates on issues of interest to torque-converter rebuilders. ©2006 Sonnax Industries Inc.

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